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marklewis
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05-15-2006, 8:24 PM
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marklewis
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 Guide To Salvation wrote: | | marklewis wrote: | |
I read the post were you explain the Holy Spirit and Holy Ghost. How the Spirit was indeed around before Muhammad. I understand about the paraclyte who is Muhammad. Read this again...And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Counselor to be with you forever— 17the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be[c] in you. You say this is Muhammad the paraclyte. That is impossible, Jesus explains right here that the paraclyte lives with them and soon will be in them. How do you say this is Muhammad?
Muhammad did not live with them.
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15 ‘If you love me, you will keepme, keep');" onmouseout="return nd();" href="BLOCKED SCRIPTvoid(0);">* my commandments. 16And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Advocate, Helper');" onmouseout="return nd();" href="BLOCKED SCRIPTvoid(0);">* to be with you for ever. 17This is the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him. You know him, because he abides with you, and he will be in among');" onmouseout="return nd();" href="BLOCKED SCRIPTvoid(0);">* you.
Jesus (pbuh) is clearly speaking of 'another Advocate' to be sent. Someone who is clearly not here as you can see by this verses:
"Nevertheless, I tell you the truth; it is expedient for you that I go away, for if I go not away the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you." (John 16:7).
"I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth; for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak; and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me." (John 16:12-14).
So, it is someone who was not present at the time. Muhammad came with the same message that God would always send through his Messengers, so those who believed truly, would know him because they would recognize the message that was already with them. It clearly couldn't mean the Holy Ghost, because it is clear the Holy Ghost was already present.
John 14:26 says that the Holy Ghost is the Comforter. This claim is contrary to the plain and unambiguous words of John 16:7, wherein Jesus (AS) says that his going away, i.e., the death of Jesus is inevitably necessary of the coming of the Comforter. The New Testament says that John was filled with the Holy Ghost even before he was born (Luke 1:14), and speaks of Jesus (AS) himself as receiving the Holy Ghost in the form of a dove (Matthew 3:16).
Thus, the Holy Ghost was wont to visit men before Jesus as well as in his own time. To what, then is the reference in the words, "If I go not away the Comforter will not come unto you." Surely not to the Holy Ghost; for it is a matter of common knowledge that the Holy Ghost was co-existing with Jesus, and it would be sacrilegious to think for a moment that Jesus was without the Holy Ghost. So, the Comforter was someone other than the Holy Ghost.
This also supports our assertion that there have been many interpolations in the existing Christine Bible. It is quite obvious that the Comforter cannot be the Holy Ghost, as Jesus use the pronoun "he" instead of "it" in connection with the Comforter.
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Muhammad came with the same message that God would always send through his Messengers, so those who believed truly, would know him because they would recognize the message that was already with them. I have never read in Gods message that we must pray toward Mecca or when we die we will be in heaven with women to have sex with. Or that women are supposed to cover their faces. Or that we a supposed to go to war with those who do not believe what we do. Or the chants. or the other rituals you do? What is so special about a mosque. I have never read about them in the bible. I believe that someone added to the bible and Muhammad got the credit.
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05-15-2006, 8:30 PM
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| Guide To Salvation wrote: | | marklewis wrote: | |
What is your opinion on Jesus' true mission and what supports this view?
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God has always had one message, God does not change (Mal 3:6) and his message wouldn't either. Jesus (pbuh) came with that same message and he came to the Jews to lead them to the righteous path. Messenger after Messenger would always be sent to reaffirm the previous message, that is why the Jewshad so many messengers. Muslims do not believe that Jesus (pbuh) came to change the message to trinity and teach a doctrine never before known, which are those of original sin, and atonement. Also, he never came to teach he was the Son of God. Notice, he mostly referred to himself as Son of Man. Son of man in Hebrew is bin Adam. In Arabic, which I speak, it is beni Adam. In both Hebrew and Arabic, that is the word for human. If I wanted to say I am human in arabic, I would say, "Ana Beni Adam." Same with Hebrew. That is why Jesus always called himself the Son of Man, so everyone knew he was human. There were many Sons of Gods in the Bible:
Luke 3:38
1 Chron 28:6
Luke 3:22
Exodus 4:22
Jeremiah 31:9
1 John 3:9-10
Psalms 2:7
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This is a walk around the park. What does Jesus mean to you? If he didn't exist, would it matter to you? Basically he is unnecessary to you and me? You always give evidence to negate what I believe. Do you not have an origional opinion on the matter?
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05-15-2006, 9:24 PM
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| marklewis wrote: | | Guide To Salvation wrote: | | marklewis wrote: | |
I read the post were you explain the Holy Spirit and Holy Ghost. How the Spirit was indeed around before Muhammad. I understand about the paraclyte who is Muhammad. Read this again...And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Counselor to be with you forever— 17the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be[c] in you. You say this is Muhammad the paraclyte. That is impossible, Jesus explains right here that the paraclyte lives with them and soon will be in them. How do you say this is Muhammad?
Muhammad did not live with them.
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15 ‘If you love me, you will keepme, keep');" onmouseout="return nd();" href="BLOCKED SCRIPTvoid(0);">* my commandments. 16And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Advocate, Helper');" onmouseout="return nd();" href="BLOCKED SCRIPTvoid(0);">* to be with you for ever. 17This is the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him. You know him, because he abides with you, and he will be in among');" onmouseout="return nd();" href="BLOCKED SCRIPTvoid(0);">* you.
Jesus (pbuh) is clearly speaking of 'another Advocate' to be sent. Someone who is clearly not here as you can see by this verses:
"Nevertheless, I tell you the truth; it is expedient for you that I go away, for if I go not away the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you." (John 16:7).
"I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth; for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak; and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me." (John 16:12-14).
So, it is someone who was not present at the time. Muhammad came with the same message that God would always send through his Messengers, so those who believed truly, would know him because they would recognize the message that was already with them. It clearly couldn't mean the Holy Ghost, because it is clear the Holy Ghost was already present.
John 14:26 says that the Holy Ghost is the Comforter. This claim is contrary to the plain and unambiguous words of John 16:7, wherein Jesus (AS) says that his going away, i.e., the death of Jesus is inevitably necessary of the coming of the Comforter. The New Testament says that John was filled with the Holy Ghost even before he was born (Luke 1:14), and speaks of Jesus (AS) himself as receiving the Holy Ghost in the form of a dove (Matthew 3:16).
Thus, the Holy Ghost was wont to visit men before Jesus as well as in his own time. To what, then is the reference in the words, "If I go not away the Comforter will not come unto you." Surely not to the Holy Ghost; for it is a matter of common knowledge that the Holy Ghost was co-existing with Jesus, and it would be sacrilegious to think for a moment that Jesus was without the Holy Ghost. So, the Comforter was someone other than the Holy Ghost.
This also supports our assertion that there have been many interpolations in the existing Christine Bible. It is quite obvious that the Comforter cannot be the Holy Ghost, as Jesus use the pronoun "he" instead of "it" in connection with the Comforter.
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Muhammad came with the same message that God would always send through his Messengers, so those who believed truly, would know him because they would recognize the message that was already with them. I have never read in Gods message that we must pray toward Mecca or when we die we will be in heaven with women to have sex with. Or that women are supposed to cover their faces. Or that we a supposed to go to war with those who do not believe what we do. Or the chants. or the other rituals you do? What is so special about a mosque. I have never read about them in the bible. I believe that someone added to the bible and Muhammad got the credit.
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Very simple People used to face Jerusalem, as can be seen in the book of Daniel, and this was true even in Muhammads (pbuh) day. Then God ordered Muhammad to change to the Kabbah in Mecca. Here is why:
The Qibla is not merely a direction to face during the five obligatory prayers. It is a place to gather in a display of a brotherhood of mankind, and the equality of all human beings.
No other religion has a Qibla! The Hindus and the Jews do not believe in the equality of the human race. Hundreds of millions of human beings are considered untouchables by Hinduism.
Jews consider themselves to be the “chosen race”; all others are considered gentiles by them.
Christians accept this ridiculous claim of the Jews.
Islam is the only religion that declares all human beings to be equal. No race is superior to any other. There are no chosen ones!
The declaration of the brotherhood of mankind is not a mere lip service. The Hajj is the annual display of this equality of human beings. This living miracle of Islam has been put on display every single year since the last 14 centuries.
Makkah is the only town that qualifies to host this annual display of the miracle till the end of times.
God did not describe heaven in great detail in the Bible to begin with.
The Bible indeed says women are to cover there hair:
1 Corinthians 11:3But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God. 4Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head. 5But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven. 6For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered. 7For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man. 8For the man is not of the woman: but the woman of the man. 9Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.
Muslims do not have to go to war with those that don't believe what they do. Actually, they are not allowed to. They can only fight those that fight them. In other words, they can only defend themselves:
"Fight in God's cause against those who fight you, but do not overstep the limits: God does not love those who overstep the limits" (2:190).
60:8: "and He does not forbid you to deal kindly and justly with anyone who has not fought you for your faith or driven you out of your homes: God loves the just. 9: But God forbids you to take as allies those who have fought against you for your faith, driven you out of your homes, and helped others to drive you out: any of you who take them as allies will truly be wrongdoers."
22:39 :"Those who have been attacked are permitted to take up arms because they have been wronged -God has the power to help them- 40: Those who have been driven unjustly from their homes only for saying, "Our Lord is God.' if God did not repel some people by means of others, many monasteries, churches, synagogues, and mosques, where God's name is much invoked, would have been destroyed. God is sure to help those who help his cause -God is strong and mighty-
8:60 "Prepare whatever forces you [believers] can muster, including warhorses, to frighten off God's enemies and yours, and warn others unknown to you but known to God. Whatever you give in God's cause will be repaid to you in full, and you will not be wringed. 61: But if they incline towards peace, you [Prophet] must also incline towards it, and put your trust in God: He is the All Hearing, the All Knowing."
Jews also do chants and they existed before Christians. By the way, they are not chants, their prayers. There is no chanting in Islam. Prayer consists solely of Qur'anic verses and praising of God.
There is nothing sepcial about a mosque, it's like a Church to a Christian, or a synagogue to a Jew. I never read about a Church in the Old Testament either, your point?
So you admit the Bible has been corrupted as the Qur'an states? You just did in that last line.
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05-15-2006, 9:27 PM
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Re: Debate challenge Rejected
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| marklewis wrote: | | Guide To Salvation wrote: | | marklewis wrote: | |
What is your opinion on Jesus' true mission and what supports this view?
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God has always had one message, God does not change (Mal 3:6) and his message wouldn't either. Jesus (pbuh) came with that same message and he came to the Jews to lead them to the righteous path. Messenger after Messenger would always be sent to reaffirm the previous message, that is why the Jewshad so many messengers. Muslims do not believe that Jesus (pbuh) came to change the message to trinity and teach a doctrine never before known, which are those of original sin, and atonement. Also, he never came to teach he was the Son of God. Notice, he mostly referred to himself as Son of Man. Son of man in Hebrew is bin Adam. In Arabic, which I speak, it is beni Adam. In both Hebrew and Arabic, that is the word for human. If I wanted to say I am human in arabic, I would say, "Ana Beni Adam." Same with Hebrew. That is why Jesus always called himself the Son of Man, so everyone knew he was human. There were many Sons of Gods in the Bible:
Luke 3:38
1 Chron 28:6
Luke 3:22
Exodus 4:22
Jeremiah 31:9
1 John 3:9-10
Psalms 2:7
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This is a walk around the park. What does Jesus mean to you? If he didn't exist, would it matter to you? Basically he is unnecessary to you and me? You always give evidence to negate what I believe. Do you not have an origional opinion on the matter?
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Well then, are you saying those such as Abraham, Moses, David, Solomon, Jacob, Ismeal, Noah, Lot, Elijah, Elisha, Daniel, Jeremiah, Joseph, Isaac, Aaron, Joab (peace be upon them)... are unnecessary? Jesus (pbuh) was one of Gods prophets in Islam, and he had the message of God. He played an important roll because he did bring some to the right path. If you say this makes him irrelevant, then you are also saying that all hte above prophets are irrelevant.
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05-16-2006, 3:57 PM
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You either do not understand english or you are deliberately avoiding the question.
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05-16-2006, 4:16 PM
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The bible was corrupted, no doubt about that. It was corrupted by whoever invented Islam. It is corrupted by anyone who adds to it or takes away from it. It is also corrupted by anyone who improperly interprets it. To be a teacher is a tremendous honor. You will be judged more severley for your words. Offences must needs be, but woe unto them by which offences come.
19"Sir," the woman said, "I can see that you are a prophet. 20Our fathers worshiped on this mountain, but you Jews claim that the place where we must worship is in Jerusalem."
21Jesus declared, "Believe me, woman, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. 22You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews. 23Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. 24God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth."
25The woman said, "I know that Messiah" (called Christ) "is coming. When he comes, he will explain everything to us."
26Then Jesus declared, "I who speak to you am he."
So what about heaven and the virgins?
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05-16-2006, 4:34 PM
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You still do answer the most important question.
16And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
17Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
All of the underlined text are about the same thing (spirit). If this spirit is Muhammad, then you can substitute Muhammads name in all the underlined text.
16And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you Muhammad, that he may abide with you for ever;
17Even Muhammad; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for Muhammad dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
This can not be true. To keep the meaning, context and structure of the verse is not possible when Muhammad,s name is substituted. This is what your whole religion is based on. That is what Muhammad said. Not me. This is how the bible gets corrupted.
26But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
This verse is also the same. The Comforter here is the same as the Comforter in the verses above. Substitute Muhammad.
26But Muhammd, which is Muhammad, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
This obviously reads wierd. It is not possible to insert Muhammad's name here either. But infact that is what Islam teaches. This is what you have taught me.
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05-16-2006, 8:15 PM
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| marklewis wrote: | |
The bible was corrupted, no doubt about that. It was corrupted by whoever invented Islam. It is corrupted by anyone who adds to it or takes away from it. It is also corrupted by anyone who improperly interprets it. To be a teacher is a tremendous honor. You will be judged more severley for your words. Offences must needs be, but woe unto them by which offences come.
19"Sir," the woman said, "I can see that you are a prophet. 20Our fathers worshiped on this mountain, but you Jews claim that the place where we must worship is in Jerusalem."
21Jesus declared, "Believe me, woman, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. 22You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews. 23Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. 24God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth."
25The woman said, "I know that Messiah" (called Christ) "is coming. When he comes, he will explain everything to us."
26Then Jesus declared, "I who speak to you am he."
So what about heaven and the virgins?
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That is a very serious charge, and unless you have evidence to back it, you have no right making such a charge. What about the heavens and the virgins? I'm not denying it? so what about it? Do you want me to detail what the virgins are for or something?
What are you getting to with that post? That it's neither the mountains nor Jerusalem? Are you trying to help my cause by saying it became Mecca? And that the kind of worship is the Muslim worship, which is where your spirit makes contact with God? Thank You.
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05-16-2006, 8:18 PM
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| marklewis wrote: | |
You still do answer the most important question.
16And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
17Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
All of the underlined text are about the same thing (spirit). If this spirit is Muhammad, then you can substitute Muhammads name in all the underlined text.
16And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you Muhammad, that he may abide with you for ever;
17Even Muhammad; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for Muhammad dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
This can not be true. To keep the meaning, context and structure of the verse is not possible when Muhammad,s name is substituted. This is what your whole religion is based on. That is what Muhammad said. Not me. This is how the bible gets corrupted.
26But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
This verse is also the same. The Comforter here is the same as the Comforter in the verses above. Substitute Muhammad.
26But Muhammd, which is Muhammad, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
This obviously reads wierd. It is not possible to insert Muhammad's name here either. But infact that is what Islam teaches. This is what you have taught me.
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You truly have a strange logic. It would read "But the comforter, which is Muhammad (pbuh)...
I've answered this question, and I asked you to show me how it could possibly be the Holy Ghost. Are you trying to avoid this?
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05-16-2006, 8:26 PM
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Here's a little take home quiz. Are you going to blame this on the Muslims too?
If you must accept Jesus as your Savior in order to be saved (John
14:6), what about the billions of beings that die as fetuses, infants,
and mentally deficient, etc.? For them to accept Jesus would be
impossible. So they are condemned to hell because of conditions over
which they had no control. Deut. 32:4 says God is just, but where is
the justice?
Why are we being punished for Adam's sin? After all, he ate the
forbidden fruit, we didn't. It's his problem, not ours, especially in
light of Deut. 24:16, which says children shall not be punished for the
sins of their fathers.
How can Num. 23:19, which says God doesn't repent, be reconciled
with Ex. 32:14, which clearly says he does?
How can 2 Kings 8:26, which says Ahaziah began to rule at age 22,
be reconciled with 2 Chron. 22:2, which says he was 42?
How can Ex. 33:20, which says no man can see God's face and live, be
squared with Gen. 32:30, which says a man saw God's face and his life
was preserved?
How could Moses have written the first five books in the Bible (the
Pentateuch) when his own death and burial are described in Deut. 34:5-6
("So Moses the servant of the Lord died there in the land of Moab ...
and he buried him in a valley. . . .")?
Did Solomon have 40,000 stalls for his horses (1 Kings 4:26) or 4,000
(2 Chron. 9:25)? Did Solomon's house contain 2,000 baths (1 Kings 7:26)
or 3,000 (2 Chron. 4:5)?
Was Jehoiachin 18 years old when he began to reign in Jerusalem and
did he reign 3 months (2 Kings 24:8), or was he 8 years old and reigned
3 months and 10 days (2 Chron. 36: 9). Did Nebuzaradan come to
Jerusalem on the 7th (2 Kings 25:8) or 10th (Jer. 52:12) day of the 5th
month?
Matt. 27:9-10 quotes a prophecy made by Jeremy the prophet. Yet, no
Bible believer has ever been able to show me where it lies in the Book
of Jeremiah.
We are told salvation is obtained by faith alone (John 3:18,36) "
yet Jesus told a man to follow the Commandments-Matt. 19:16-18 (saving
by works)-if he wanted eternal life.
According to the text there are 29 cities listed in Joshua 15:21-32
(RSV). One need only count them to see that biblical math is not to be
trusted. The total is 36.
Last, in Acts 20:35 Paul told people “to remember the words of the
Lord Jesus, how he said, ‘It is more blessed to give than to receive.’”
Since Jesus never made such a biblical statement, isn't Paul guilty of
deception?
Isn't Jesus a false prophet since he wrongly predicted in Matt. 12:40
that he would be buried three days and three nights as Jonah was in the
whale three days and three nights? Friday afternoon to early Sunday
morning is only one and a half days.
Jesus' prophecy in John 13:38 (“The *** shall not crow, till thou
[Peter] hast denied me three times”) is false. Mark 14:66-68 shows the
*** crowed after the first denial, not the third.
In 1 Cor. 1: 1 7 ("For Christ sent me [Paul] not to baptize but to
preach the gospel”) Paul said Jesus was wrong when he said in Matt.
28:19 “Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them....” So
how could Jesus be the fountain of wisdom?
How could Jesus, whom the New Testament repeatedly refers to as the
son of man, be our savior when this is clearly forestalled by Psalm
146:3 ("Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man in whom
there is no help") and Job 25:6 ("How much less man, that is a worm? and
the son of man, which is a worm")?
Jesus told us to "honor thy father and mother” (Matt. 15:4), but
contradicted his own teaching in Luke 14:26 ("If any man comes to me and
does not hate his father and mother ... he cannot be my disciple").
In John 3:13 ("And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that
came down from heaven, even the Son of man...) Jesus erred because 2
Kings 2:11 (“. . . and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven") shows
Elijah went up earlier.
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05-17-2006, 11:14 PM
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05-17-2006, 11:44 PM
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| Guide To Salvation wrote: | | marklewis wrote: | |
You still do answer the most important question.
16And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
17Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
All of the underlined text are about the same thing (spirit). If this spirit is Muhammad, then you can substitute Muhammads name in all the underlined text.
16And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you Muhammad, that he may abide with you for ever;
17Even Muhammad; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for Muhammad dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
This can not be true. To keep the meaning, context and structure of the verse is not possible when Muhammad,s name is substituted. This is what your whole religion is based on. That is what Muhammad said. Not me. This is how the bible gets corrupted.
26But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
This verse is also the same. The Comforter here is the same as the Comforter in the verses above. Substitute Muhammad.
26But Muhammd, which is Muhammad, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
This obviously reads wierd. It is not possible to insert Muhammad's name here either. But infact that is what Islam teaches. This is what you have taught me.
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You truly have a strange logic. It would read "But the comforter, which is Muhammad (pbuh)...
I've answered this question, and I asked you to show me how it could possibly be the Holy Ghost. Are you trying to avoid this?
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You forgot 16 and 17, your answer was not sufficient and verse 26 states that the Comforter is the Holy Ghost.
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